Q. A bottom line question. Ultimately, after 31 years in Broward, ultimately, why did you have to leave? Why did you see the need to leave?
DICK COLLIVER: I think it was -- it's a combination. I think working with the PGA TOUR, working, our desire to elevate the tournament to another level.
IRV GROSSMAN: The dictates of the Tour provide that they will set the date, and they will tell you and they will approve where you play. They no longer approved Heron Bay to play this tournament.
Q. Was that because you didn't approve of it being played here?
IRV GROSSMAN: No. "They," meaning the PGA TOUR. So why they did that, you'd have to ask them.
Q. You said they no longer approved this place?
IRV GROSSMAN: There are two conditions that the PGA awards. One is the date, and where you play. They approve both.
Q. When did you know? When were you notified them that Heron Bay would no longer be an appropriate place for a PGA TOUR event?
IRV GROSSMAN: It was a culmination of the sentiment of a good number of players. And officially, I think two years ago.
Q. So they gave you a two-year window to find a new venue?
IRV GROSSMAN: Correct.
Q. What went wrong here? There was a 25-year contract and a vision, like I'm hearing here, four years ago.
IRV GROSSMAN: That answer would have to come from the PGA TOUR.
As far as we were concerned, nothing would move. I mean, you know, we had every intention when we came here six years ago, to stay forever.
CY CASE: We didn't have any problems at all with the City, as far as sponsorships and everything. Everybody was on the same page. There was nobody looking to try and vacate the contract that was in place, and we really thought we had a 25-year home, and basically what Irv said is what dictated our move. The City and the PGA TOUR and the Foundation have come to reasonable terms to discontinue the contract going forward.
Q. When you moved here six years ago from Eagle Trace, did the PGA TOUR push you into this direction, into this venue?
IRV GROSSMAN: It was a joint effort to find us a spot to play. The responsibility of getting a venue is not the sponsor's. It's the local Foundation and the PGA TOUR, and together we worked to find a place to continue the Honda Classic.
DICK COLLIVER: We actually came from Weston Hills, and they had built out and they didn't have room for the tournament.
IRV GROSSMAN: The Eagle Trace interlude was because this course was not fully playable.
Q. I guess the general question is: Did the PGA TOUR basically say, "We are building a new TPC venue at Heron Bay, McCumber is coming out; we think it would be a good idea for you to move the Classic"?
CY CASE: I think it was a joint search, a place available to us. We wanted to keep the event here in Broward County. It was joint. There was no pressure for us to come out here at all. We looked at other places even besides this.
IRV GROSSMAN: Originally, TPC did not own this facility. So it wasn't theirs when we moved here.
Q. Was it a mistake to come here?
CY CASE: The mistake I see is the number of times this event has moved. Because what it does, it impacts what our goal is as a Foundation, and that's to provide dollars to the charities. So every time we make a move, the upstart costs and so forth runs $200,000 or $300,000 that basically we can't give to our local charities. Every time we move, we hope it's going to be the final one; and we thought that was going to be the case, but as he said, the PGA TOUR dictates the date and the times. They are the big gorilla in this game.
Q. Was there anything else in Broward County suitable for yourselves and the PGA TOUR?
IRV GROSSMAN: The answer is: No, we could not.
CY CASE: One of the biggest problems, as you know in any event is parking. We try to get 1,500 parking spaces and like you asked Dick, the developers as they squeeze down and use their open space. Sop you have to have support of the City that you are in to provide public transportation. And a lot of our clientele has gotten a little bit spoiled over the fact that they come so close to our event and park.
As you can see this year, we are out some distance, which was part of the original contract and being bussed in; so they are not used to that. So up there, right off the bat, they will get accustomed to being bussed in, and hopefully they will continue to support us as we go forward.
Q. Speaking of parking, what will be the parking situation be at Mirasol?
CRAIG PERNA: We have ample space right now. I think that we are going to be meeting, our full staff, finding location for general parking that will be convenient throughout the entire tenure of the event.
So right now, we are fine in terms of parking on site. We have a lot of undeveloped land that we will be utilizing. Plus, there is future land that's near us from the Board of Education that won't be built on for a considerable period of time. We think that we will be able to handle the execution.
Q. Is that land farther west on PGA Boulevard?
CRAIG PERNA: No. It's right on the property at Mirasol.
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