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NCAA MEN'S FINAL FOUR


March 26, 1997


Clem Haskins

Rick Pitino


INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA

ALFRED WHITE: Thank you very much. Good afternoon again everyone, and welcome to the first media conference for the 1997 NCAA Final Four. My name is Alfred White. I am director of promotions for the NCAA, and will serve as your immediate conference moderator for each of the Final Four media conferences. For the next 30 minutes our telephonic conference will feature the head coaches from the Universities of Kentucky and Minnesota. At this time I'd like to congratulate the two coaches on their team's accomplishments this year and we look forward to seeing you in Indianapolis later on this week. To get this segment started, we will ask Coach Clem Haskins to give some general comments about his Minnesota Gophers.

COACH HASKINS: First of all, we're just delighted to be here at the NCAA Final. We're here because we had 9 players that played double-figure minutes for a ballgame, and we're here because of a strong defense, and we've done everything we can to win.

ALFRED WHITE: We're waiting for Coach Pitino to finish some commitments he has with CBS sports. We'll open up the floor from questions from our callers. We will take questions until 2:00 o'clock.

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Q. Clem, talk about Harris, has he fully recovered now?

COACH HASKINS: Anytime you have that type of injury, you don't heal in one week. But he worked out a little today, he has not tried since he got hurt. But we feel he will be able to play, and we're going to test today to see what happens in practice.

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Q. Clem, two-part question: One, looking at Kentucky, a lot of people have been kind of waiting for them to fail in this tournament because of their supposed lack of depth, and just having 8 guys out there and whatnot. You look at their starting lineup and the statistics don't jump out at you, as if this is a national final contender. Can you just kind of talk about maybe the misconception that this is not a deep team. And the other thing I wanted to ask you is could you just make a comment about Mercer and what kind of an impact player he is?

COACH HASKINS: No. 1, Kentucky is a fine ball club. You don't get here unless you have a good ball club and great coaching. He has 8 or 9 qualified players that have done great every night. Mercer is one of the finest college players, tremendous quickness and speed, and he played great team basketball.

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Q. Clem, I was wondering, how badly did you want to go to Kentucky when you were growing up and what were your memories of Kentucky? And, 2, is there any sense of irony that you're about to coach in the high point of your career against a school that wouldn't recruit you?

COACH HASKINS: Coming up in Kentucky first of all, you have to understand I lived in an area and didn't have TV and radio. So going to college was probably an afterthought when I got to be a junior in high school. I never listened to Kentucky games, there was no interest in me going to Kentucky. I'm excited to going to Western Kentucky University, I had a great career there. If I had to do it again I'd do the same thing. I never regretted going to Western Kentucky University.

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Q. Could you talk about Bobby Jackson and also the importance at this level of having strong guard play?

COACH HASKINS: Bobby Jackson is a tremendous basketball player. The world and I realize he can play the game of basketball. He's an explosive, very athletic young man. And he's made some second team All Americans, I think he deserved that. He deserved a year in the Big 10. This is kind of one of the best kept secrets in basketball. I hope we can keep it two more basketball games, that he can play. I think it's important to have a good, strong guard play. I think Kentucky gives them a good strong guard play, that's why we're here. And we're here because Bobby Jackson is give us the same kind of play.

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Q. Two quick things, can you talk a little about the motivation of not making the NCAA tournament last year, and also the heart problems you had a couple of years ago. Did that affect you or your coaching in any way, shape or form?

COACH HASKINS: No. 1, we're here because we worked hard and have a very good basketball team. I think we're motivated to a great degree. You have to have good players and quality coaching to advance this far. We're here because we've worked so hard in the last couple of years. And getting into the Final Four didn't start this year, but the last 11 years, so we're very fortunate to be here. My heart attack gives me a different look on life. You look at life, and you're laying on a bed and you can't move and you're thinking about, boy, this may be the last breath. So you start putting things in perspective; God, family and job. And I've worked all my life believing in God but even stronger now. I've put him first, my family second and my job third. God has always been first in my life. I look at life different in the last two years.

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Q. Clem, you participated in the NBA Finals as a player. You've coached an NIT championship game. Can you talk about what going to the Final Four means for your overall career?

COACH HASKINS: I think I've been very, very fortunate. Like I say, God has blessed me. I've played all level of high school, college and pro ball, championship game, NIT championship and the Final 8 before; as a player and as a coach. But this is a highlight to win a National Championship. That's what we all strive for as coaches, it's a dream come true for me to be here. I'm excited about it and looking forward to competing.

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Q. Clem, can you comment on why you brought the team into Indianapolis so early, earlier than any other team? And Rick, also, if you're there, can you tie in on whether there's any difference when a team arrives and to put up with the hoopla at the Final Four?

COACH HASKINS: I never worry about other people. I do what's best for Clem Haskins and the University of Minnesota basketball program. It was unbelievable to get out of town, we've got bands outside the dorm, we've got everybody patting them on the back. We're really excited to be in the Final Four. But to compete with a great team like Kentucky, you've got to be focused. If you're not you're in big time trouble. We have to get here and get back to the basic and intent on playing basketball.

COACH PITINO: I feel the same way to a certain degree as Clem. Every team is different, though. I like to come in as late as possible. If I could I'd come in Friday night. But we have obviously some press things we have to do on Friday. But we travel game day most of the situations on the road. And we're conditioned to do that. So it's all depends on what you're conditioned to do during the regular season.

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Q. Coach Haskins, if you could just talk a little bit about the play of Charles Thomas and what he's meant to you guys throughout your NCAA run there. And also to Coach Pitino, if he could talk a little bit about Minnesota perimeter shooters and how he plans on kind of cutting down on their three point chances.

COACH HASKINS: We're delighted to have Charles Thomas in our program. His biggest problem has been health. He's had a bad back all season; not been able to play 10 or 12 minutes in post season games. We extended it to 10 to 20 minutes a night. He's good hard worker, good hard player, we're delighted to have Charles in our program.

COACH PITINO: The Minnesota perimeter game I think is terrific. They're a team as you watch them that is well schooled in all areas; they play zone well, they play man well, they take good shots, they're very physical. I don't think there's a weakness that sticks out and I think their perimeter game is strong. It's unique how many times Bobby Jackson, when you look at it, some of their other players, as well, but their back court of Harris, Jackson, go to the line an incredible number of times, 148 and 173, they double most of our players. So we certainly have our work cut out for us, not only to play good defense, but also not to foul.

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Q. Coach Haskins, Kentucky has obviously had the championship run last season and they play a lot of big games where the fans charge out of the stands like at the National Championship game if they beat them. What do you think that experience gives Kentucky in a national spotlight like the Final Four and do you have any concern about your team maybe not having had at least the same sort of experience?

COACH HASKINS: You've got to give them the credit. They've had a great tradition for many, many years. It's been like that as long as I can remember. They've got great tradition. But you know here those things have been happening to us all year. Every Big 10 game is like an NCAA game. We lead the country in the pennants and in the Big 10 we're used to playing before big houses and spectators, a lot of fans, so we're looking forward to it.

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Q. Clem, if you could talk a little bit, again, about your decision to bring the team in so early. What is the schedule going to be like these first few days, how much free time are your players going to have?

COACH HASKINS: We try to treat it like another game on the road. It's an opportunity once in a lifetime. We're here to play a couple of hours a day, and relax a couple of hours a day and get the kids downtown to see what's going on and enjoy that, too. I've been around a long time, I've played games at all level. I asked them to give me two hours of work a day at on the court and two hours of session, and 4 or 5 hours we enjoy going to the movies and socializing with each other.

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Q. Coach Haskins, I had two questions. One, did you have a brother that played at Kentucky and if you could talk about that. And the other thing was why do you think that even considering the record you guys had during the season that you came into the tournament and people still consider you the team that no one knows anything about. Why do you think that is?

COACH HASKINS: The first question, my brother, yes, played at Kentucky from '73 to '77, under Coach Hardy, was captain the last year there; very successful young man with Philip-Morris Tobacco Company. I don't know why people don't respect us. We have a problem with that. We know we have a fine ball club. Anytime you play the Big 10 and you win 16 basketball games you know you've got to be doing something great; great coaches and great players. We have confidence. We do have a good program and good team. But I think other people are beginning to recognize that now.

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Q. Clem, if you could, could you just talk a little bit about the Kentucky defense and what impresses you more than the full court pressure or the half court?

COACH HASKINS: Coach Pitino has done a tremendous job with his program there, and they've been tenacious. They play full press for 40 minutes, but they seem to keep the heat for 40 minutes. And you've got to be on your toes and be ready for the heat for 40 minutes. That's probably different than most teams, is the pressure.

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Q. Coach Haskins, I wonder if you would talk about the feeling that you have that your daughter Clement is the head coach of her own program and you have your son, Brent, next to you on the Minnesota bench as a budding coach?

COACH HASKINS: It makes you feel good. I think it's important as a parent. I'm a family man, I believe strongly to see your kids successful, whether it's coaching or working. I have my son, like you said working here, and I have a daughter who is in law school. My daughter is coaching basketball. So they have their own niche. But if they're successful it makes you feel good. I feel good about having my son here, who is going to be an excellent head coach down the road. He has to pay his dues for four or five years, but he has great potential and a great mind. Like I say, most coaches know the game, and my son really knows the game. And he'll be an excellent coach down the road.

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Q. Rick, could you talk about the bench you guys have put together this year and are you surprised given where these guys were a year ago, how well and how much they've contributed? And also for Clem, if you feel that with Kentucky's depth, does that negate one of your strengths?

COACH PITINO: I don't feel our depth is, before the season started our depth was very good. Right now we're playing 8 people. We don't have the depth that Minnesota has. But that's something that we've been conditioned to go without. Certainly we both have more depth than Carolina only plays six or seven people. And most of us have more players, we just want to play a certain amount and that's our option. But I'm very surprised at the way we've developed because quite frankly the preseason for me out of all the years I've been in Kentucky was a nightmare as far as our expectations and what we thought. And then we just lowered our expectations a little bit and tried to just say we're going to be the best we can be each day and hope for the best at the end. Our guys have done a men job of focusing in with adversity. I'm really proud of this ball club because they've earned everything and deserve the credit and now they get to go to a Final Four because of it.

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Q. This question is for Clem. Clem, I'm just curious if you have contacted any friends or colleagues in the coaching profession who have been to Final Four's before and picked their brain as to how they went about handling these days leading up to the tournament?

COACH HASKINS: I think you need as much information you can get. There's no substitute for experience. You want to talk to people who have had experience in the field. I've talked to a lot of people who have been at the Final Four and asked for suggestions. In the end you've got to know your team and what's best for the team and make the decisions. I've been in big games as a player, but I've talked about several people about what goes on at the Final Four and how to deal with certain situations.

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Q. Coach Haskins, you've been asked a couple of questions regarding Kentucky, with your Kentucky background and you seem pretty removed from it. But does it mean anymore at all to you personally just having grown up there and your brother playing there and does it mean anything more to you personally, not so much from a professional approach but just the feeling that it might inspire in you?

COACH HASKINS: Not really. If you were talking about 25 or 30 years ago, yes, it would have made a lot of difference. But over the years I've been through enough and I'm completely over that. Kentucky is an outstanding program, one of the best in the country. The record speaks for itself. Rick Pitino does a great job there. And his record speaks for itself. They've been the national champions. Not necessarily going against Kentucky, because I'm from Kentucky, but it's an outstanding basketball team and an outstanding coach I'm going against.

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Q. This question is for Coach Rick Pitino. Coach Pitino, my one question for you, is talk about the strengths and weaknesses of the Minnesota Gophers.

COACH PITINO: I can't find many weaknesses, and I've watched about 8 films so far and neither can our assistants. Their program last year that probably deserved to be in the NCAA. They had a winning record in the Big 10. They play a tough schedule. They compete very hard. But they've got valuable experience from the NIT and they took that game to a new level this year. And they have more experience now with an added year. But they're as well schooled at the fundamentals as any team we've faced this year. They do everything well. They help off the ball well, they trap well, they change their defenses well. And it's one of the few teams I've seen when they switch to a zone they're just as strong and just as well schooled. So we're going against the toughest team we have faced. But you're supposed to when you reach the Final Four. The competition is supposed to get stiff and it certainly is with Minnesota.

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Q. Clem, you seem to take quite a bit of pride in having an old school mentality. I was wondering if you could talk about what old school means to you and why you think that's been successful for you in this day and age when a lot of people think you have to treat modern day athletes a little differently?

COACH HASKINS: I don't believe in that. My dad taught me years ago, and my father was the inspiration of my life today, taught me the values of hard work and being honest and fair. And my dad had a third grade education. He raised 11 kids on 35 hundred dollars a year. That's where I got my values. I don't believe in earrings, long pants and those things I don't believe in. Yes, I have some guys that have tatoos, and some guys that have earrings, behind my back. When we go out they don't do those things. I don't believe in those things. A few more years I'm going to be forced out of coaching because young people don't believe in that. And I think coaches give into that. But I can't give into that. To get the Blue Chip player I guess you probably have to, and that's probably why I don't get that many guys. I believe in going to church on Sunday mornings. But you have to be very selective in the people you recruit and that's why I've been selective in Minnesota, because every kid doesn't see it like that.

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Q. This is for Coach Pitino. Rick, could you talk about the way Mills has stepped up his play for you guys so far in the tournament?

COACH PITINO: He's been remarkable. Quite honestly he wasn't playing too much the first half of the season in terms of practice. And we had Derek Anderson and Allen Edwards and Cameron in the Arkansas game was out for about a week with a bad ankle. I put in the game, he responded as if he played 30 minutes a game every night. It's a remarkable thing for me because when I watch him play in practice I don't see what's happening in the NCAA tournament. And he's just a young man. I think Nazr Mohammed is the same way. From my pro experience there are guys out there that just play hard in practice but they don't play well. But when they get in games, they're game players. And both of those young men have done that, you really can't evaluate them at practice because they mislead you a little bit.

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Q. Rick, my question is could you comment briefly on Jamaal's maturity in his freshman year and whether he'll start on Saturday?

COACH PITINO: I don't know if he'll start, but Jamaal is coming on. He is a young man typical of most high school basketball players, the first thing they're thinking of how long it would take them before they can go pro. And he just needs to learn the college game and take it one day at a time. And he's done that. He's improving, but he has a long way to go, obviously, before he's a factor at this level. But where he's very good, he's a very good defensive player. He has a big body that's only going to get better. And all he needs is experience playing the game. He just needs to play more basketball. And that's something in the off season he has to concentrate on. As far as starting I'm not sure whether he will start or not.

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Q. Rick, you started the season at the Dome way back in November, and the team was upset. What are your thoughts about coming back here?

COACH PITINO: To tell you the truth, I think -- I don't think it was much of an upset, looking back on it. I think it was a great basketball game that we lost in over time. We didn't play any of our big people in that game. We played Jared Prickett the entire game and Clemson just was better that night. But we've played well in the Dome, but we've played well -- I know it has nothing to do with the Dome, it has nothing to do with Indianapolis. I know we're undefeated in the pyramid and I know why. If I would have come in with the teams I had the first three years we would have had a terrible record, but with the talent -- it's the talent on the court, not the facilities. And I think Indianapolis is a great place to have the Final Four and we're excited to be back.

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Q. Question for Rick. Rick, could you compare your first trip to the Final Four with Providence 10 years ago with your subsequent trips to Kentucky? What was the first time like, what have you learned since then in balancing in letting players enjoy the experience but at the same time shielding them from it? Is there an advantage or disadvantage for a team going for the first time?

COACH PITINO: If I had my entire team back from last year, I think it's a little bit of an advantage, because they've been there, they know what to expect. But I don't have my entire team back. Five or six key players are not back with all the minutes and all the points and all the rebounds. Although Anthony Epps, and some of other players have experienced it, this is basically a new basketball team. And I don't think anybody has an advantage from that sense. So right now I think we're going in there with a positive attitude. But I said this the other day, I think going in late, going in early, what you eat, distractions and all of that is what people try to pick out because there's so much air time, so much media time, they don't know what to talk about, so they bring up all those things. What's going to win or lose the basketball game is how good is Minnesota's defense and Kentucky's defense and all the offenses and how they execute that Monday night. All the other things of when you show up and when you don't show up are going to be meaningless.

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Q. For both of you, there obviously are some heavyweight coaches in this Final Four. Might there be anything to the idea that with so much parity in the game now and so much players leaving early for the NBA that coaching is making a bigger difference in getting this far?

COACH PITINO: I don't think, really, again, I was a 500 coach when I first came to Kentucky because I had 500 talent, what dictates how well you coach is the talented ball players on the floor. I've watched Rick Mageris (ph) on film and studying his system and Tom Davis and when I watched away and Coach Phil Matelli (ph) from St. Joe's. I walked away saying these guys are some of the better coaches I've seen in the country, in the way they run their systems. And now that I've watched seven or eight films on Clem Haskins and I was fortunate enough to see him on TV a few times, there's not a better coach in the game than him. At every phase of the game his kids play well, and they execute. And they're well disciplined, well organized. So I think today certain coaches -- and I've been fortunate enough to get a lot of good press because we won a championship last year, and Clem's going to go through it this year and another coach and certainly you have the dean of all coaches with Dean Smith in North Carolina. We all know what wins or losses is the players. You don't get better coaches than the three people that are in this tournament. And certainly it's great to see it happen for Clem Haskins, because he's paid his dues and he should be recognized as one of the premiere coaches in our game, and he certainly is.

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Q. Rick, if you could talk just a little bit about the chemistry on last year's team versus the chemistry on this year's team and what, in that way, I guess makes you feel good, as you've gone along through the tournament and positive that they would keep doing good things?

COACH PITINO: Last year the most important thing for us is we had too many players, we had too much talent. And we had to get the players to understand that they weren't going to get the minutes they hoped for and we had to convince Antoine Walker and Tony Delk and Walker and Mercer and Anderson that in order to win a championship you have to check your ego in before you ever cross that line. You all have to be for the system, for the wins, and then some day you'll be national champions if we do that. We established that chemistry early on. With this team the only thing we've been trying to do is get better improved. We never thought in terms of -- well, I shouldn't say that, we did think of defending the national title, when Derek went down, all we did was try to get better. Now we have an opportunity to do that but we understand we're playing Minnesota and it's going toy difficult task.

ALFRED WHITE: Thank you very much. And I also want to thank Coaches Haskins and Pitino for being a part of this portion of today's media conference. Coaches Haskins and Pitino will next visit with the media on Friday, March 28th at the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis. Coach Haskins and a member of two Minnesota Gopher players will talk to the media from 2:00 until 2:30. Coach Pitino and a minimum of two Kentucky Wildcat players will talk to the media from 2:30 until 3:00. Before we close I have a few announcements that may be of interest to the media that will travel to Indianapolis for the Final Four. Media members not present in any of the media conferences scheduled in Indianapolis may call and listen by dialing 913-661-0896 or listening on the web site www.finalfour.net. Media credentials will first be available for pickup on Thursday, March 27th at 9 a.m. in room 145 at the Indiana Convention Center. Later on Thursday at 3 p.m. NCAA Executive Director Cedric Dempsey will address the media in Hall E at the Indiana Convention Center. Thank you for being with us today. We look forward to seeing those of you that will be with us in Indianapolis. Good afternoon.

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