BREEDERS' CUP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS

October 30, 2004

Bobby Frankel

Frank Stronach

FRANK STRONACH: Anytime you win, it's great to win a Classic. Especially the second time around, it's unbelievable. I consider myself extremely blessed, extremely blessed. The horse industry, horse racing, has been very good to me, and I hope I can give something back. (Inaudible) I feel very blessed.

BOBBY FRANKEL: I have told everybody, he has to come out and show it. That's why I didn't go out publicly (inaudible) but in my mind he was the best horse I ever trained.

FRANK STRONACH: I recommended to Bobby you should blow them out in the (inaudible) and put him right in the Classic. He doesn't listen to me.

BOBBY FRANKEL: He is just fascinating. He is a unique horse and he can sprint, like I said, and you can drop him back 15, 20 lengths and he can win or lay them right up on pace and win. I am not sure -- we took advantage of the situation today. (Inaudible) but I am sure if you drop him five or six courses, he is just a very, very good horse. Maybe he will be one of the greatest.

BOBBY FRANKEL: I was listening and watching races. The buzz was -- I said there is a slow horse next to you, so you probably operate real easily and move him out of the path, yes, and he did exactly what you said.

FRANK STRONACH: This is the greatest thrill because I own the stallion and (inaudible) and he had the 2-year-old colt that won the race today. Again, what can I say? I say a silent prayer, a silent thank you, you know. It's just amazing.

FRANK STRONACH: I believe a horse, if he is sound (inaudible), I mentioned to Bobby, look, Bobby, as far as I am concerned, we will run him next year, but I told Bobby, "I don't want to ship him away. I don't want to ship him to Japan or Dubai. He should stay here." Bobby will map out the strategy and we will race him one more time (inaudible).

BOBBY FRANKEL: The handicap Horse of the Year and Horse of the Year. It's simple.

FRANK STRONACH: (Inaudible).

FRANK STRONACH: I don't want to be a smart guy, but I kind of kept saying I planned this all the way along because I knew Halloween was coming up that day.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Just spoke to people. They said the rail was really dead yesterday, the handicappers. Then I was listening to Cheryl and I am hearing the rail is not maybe the best part of the race track. We weren't taking any chances. I just stayed in the 2-3.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Because I think this is the best horse in the country by far. They should give the Horse of the Year to the best horse. I don't think there is any doubt in anybody's mind this is the best horse in the country right now, by far.

FRANK STRONACH: I think management has done a great job here. The weather held off and the rain held off so it was a perfect day. Sometimes a guy is lucky to have a perfect day all the way through. So I consider myself lucky to a certain extent.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Yeah, I mean, I think I have proved that for two years now. The way I train, I get my best results if I bring them in fresh and in my training and that's where they run the best training and the best number. That's why I ran him in the Woodwind, coming off a fast race from the time before and now giving him 7 weeks (inaudible).

BOBBY FRANKEL: Well, I am going through today, and I have five losses today, and I am thinking that's another (inaudible) so I am not coming back anymore, you know. Mrs. Steiner took off her hat. I remember it was the Belmont race when we were having another bad day and I took off my tie that day. I said, you know what, let me take off my hat. I am not superstitious.

BOBBY FRANKEL: About 10 minutes before post. She is the one that alerted me.

BOBBY FRANKEL: You know, if I told you (inaudible) I would say he was going to win, but when you are in the race and they are running around there, you never know they are going to win until they are 20 yards from the line. Things happen in a race.

BOBBY FRANKEL: That was the scenario I thought (inaudible) they talked about Azeri, I said she is not fast enough to beat these horses. It worked out exactly the way I wanted it to.

FRANK STRONACH: Well, (inaudible) is a great horse, but to an extent he has strengths. Austin won the mile and a quarter race, so we wanted to get some distance and some stamina and speed back.

BOBBY FRANKEL: To be honest, I didn't know there was a half of City Zip. City Zip was a clumsy horse I really wasn't that impressed with, I will be honest with you. He never (inaudible) fast or anything like that. The first time I ran the horse, you could see he went out 11-1 and he never really impressed me. The whole 3-year-old career he didn't impress me. This year he was a different horse. This year he (inaudible) as fast as you want him.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Well, that's a touchy situation. You know my feelings. We are equally as good as her. I am not saying we are better. We are equally as good. She is America's darling. When she gets beat, nobody remembers when she gets beat. When Azeri gets beat, everybody forgets the race she gets beat in. When I get beat, everybody jumps on it. I think she is equally good, if not better. She has had equally as good a year if not better.

BOBBY FRANKEL: I think it's a toss-up. (Inaudible).

FRANK STRONACH: We didn't dodge anybody. (Inaudible) we beat everybody. Anyway, horse racing is a -- I let the chips fall the way they fall. So (inaudible) proved he is not only a good race horse, he is a great stallion.

FRANK STRONACH: He is riding a horse of mine.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Javier has been working the horse all the time and it is, obviously, the best horse he ever rode. He loves the horse. What can he say? It's the horse of a lifetime for him or for any jockey.

BOBBY FRANKEL: I don't want to tell the story. I might as well. When I first brought him back, I told you he was a lazy horse after the 2-year-old career. Jerry was working with the horse, (inaudible) it was a fast horse. He couldn't hardly keep up. So I had a call with him on the horse. His agent comes to me and says, you know, we are riding 5 today and he is not crazy about that horse, so you might have to take over. Fine. That's how Javier -- if you speak to them, it's a different story.

BOBBY FRANKEL: Well, I think he is the best male horse, handicap horse, I have ever trained, so he has to rank number one.

FRANK STRONACH: And it's my second Classic and so I am proud of him and (inaudible).