June 1, 1996
SOUTHERN PINES, NORTH CAROLINA
RHONDA GLENN: Ladies and gentlemen, Brandie Burton has had her best round of this championship with a 69 today, 70 in the first and second round. She's now in 2nd place. Brandie, how do you feel about the way you played today and your position?
BRANDIE BURTON: I felt pretty good. The putter worked really well today, and I was real excited about that. That gave me a lot of confidence. A few errant tee shots. Just didn't have as good of rhythm as I intended to have. But I think the big key today was making 4 on 18. That was huge for me. I don't want that shot over, I can tell you that.
RHONDA GLENN: That was a great shot. We saw that downhill lie, a little chip shot from behind the green, you got it up-and-down. Speed of play picked up a lot. We haven't had any questions about that today, I noticed. It was anywhere from 3 hours and 20 minutes to about 3 hours and 40 minutes.
BRANDIE BURTON: That was a great pace.
RHONDA GLENN: Did that help you?
BRANDIE BURTON: Like I said, the pace was the key the first two days, and it was nice to be on a little even walk today. I think we waited maybe once or twice. And you probably almost needed it. It almost went the opposite way, because sometimes you feel you're racing a little bit, especially to me. I should have gone to the beach today as many bunkers as I was in today. You had to take a few seconds on the tees every now and then.
RHONDA GLENN: Let's go over your card for this fine round.
BRANDIE BURTON: Okay. No. 4, I hit 8-iron to about 20 feet, made that for birdie. No. 7, I hit a bad tee shot right, in the bunker, hit it out about 15 yards short of the green, chipped up to about 15 feet and missed that and made bogey. No. 9, hit a 9-iron to about 30 feet, made that for birdie. No. 10 was pin high left in two, chipped that to about three feet, made that for birdie. No. 11, hit an 8-iron there to about 15 feet, made that for birdie. No. 16, I hit a 5-iron right in the bunker, hit it out about ten feet and missed that and made bogey. No. 17, I hit it in the left bunker, hit it out about 10 feet, missed that and made bogey.
RHONDA GLENN: Since you said 18 was huge to you, describe what happened, say, from your second shot in.
BRANDIE BURTON: Actually, I hit probably one of my best swings of the day. That thing was hunting down the pin. I had 159 to the hole, and I just had a little 7, and I just crushed it. My ball mark was, like, two feet behind the hole. So it was probably the best shot of the day and ended up in the worst spot. But that's golf for you anyways. But with the Donald Ross greens being -- rolling over on the ends, the ball rolled back behind and on a downslope, so I had to hit back on the downslope, back up the green, and probably hit about the best chip that I could in that type of a situation. Although, what I was thinking was just don't end the day bogeying 15, 16, 17, and 18. I hit a great chip shot there and just had a right edge putt and put it right in. That was a good ending for me.
RHONDA GLENN: You played with the leader, I'm sure we'll get into some discussion of that. Looked like match play for a minute out there early on the back 9. Questions?
Q. What's Sunday going to be like?
BRANDIE BURTON: Hopefully 75 and clear.
Q. Other than the weather (laughter.)
BRANDIE BURTON: We'll find out when I tee it up on the first tee tomorrow. I'm just going to go out and try to beat the golf course. I'm going to try to make as many birdies. And when the ball hits the bottom of the cup on 18, see what happens. That's all I can do.
Q. Brandie, is it frustrating playing against a player like Annika who doesn't make very many mistakes? And does her just right down the middle shot all the time, does that make you feel like sometimes you need to make things happen?
BRANDIE BURTON: No, I wasn't playing against her, today, I was playing against myself. And that's also a big key, because it's not match play, you've got to beat the golf course. I was so into my game, that doesn't even bother me.
Q. Are you going to go out and attack the course tomorrow; what's the game plan?
BRANDIE BURTON: I don't think you'd call it attack. You cannot be a hundred percent aggressive on this golf course. I think I've had a pretty good game plan for the last three days, and I'm just going to go out and try and approach it the same way I have the last three days.
Q. Jane Geddes said that Annika showed she wasn't an iron woman today, that she's capable of being caught and maybe passed. What was your perception of what you had to do to catch her today, and what's your perception now following the round? What, if anything, has changed in your mind about her being in the lead?
BRANDIE BURTON: See, that's the way I think everybody is getting a little out of control about that. I'm not worried about Annika, I'm worried about the golf course. The golf course is tough enough, and to have two variables come into play -- some players may think they need to catch that person. If you get wrapped up in that person, you're not going to put a hundred percent in your game. That just adds to another variable that I've worked on this year, just to beat the golf course and make as many birdies as you possibly can.
Q. Annika has missed three fairways in three days. A player that straight, does she actually equalize her distance advantage?
BRANDIE BURTON: You guys want Annika up here right now? I'm not describing Annika's game, and I'm not talking about her game. I'm up here to talk about my game.
Q. That's what I'm asking. Is there an equalization --
BRANDIE BURTON: I'm not comparing myself to her either. I'm playing the golf course, and I have great distance off the tee. And I think that's a plus. But the way this course is set up, you've got to have a short game here, and you've got to have some touch around the greens to make birdies.
RHONDA GLENN: That shot you made on 18, Brandie, that was the mark of a real veteran player. I mean, that was a wonderful golf shot, but also a mark of young nerves. Is that the kind of thing you're learning from Dave Stockton, those little delicate shots and finesse playing?
BRANDIE BURTON: Well, yeah, the delicate shots and the pressure shots. They're shots when you can lay that flange open and take a whack at it and hit it up in the air. And other shots you have to let the tilt of the club do the work. It's the percentage shots. I can easily have took a downhill bunker shot where you lay the club flat open and whale at it and pop it straight up in the air. That's not the shot. You've got about 20 percent chance of succeeding, if that. I decided to close down the club face and hit a skip-and-run shot. If all came to worse, I would have had a 30 or 20-footer, but still had my chance for par.
Q. You talk about the mental aspect you've been working on since the last couple of years. Two years ago and last year, would you have made that shot on 18 by beating yourself up on 16 and 17?
BRANDIE BURTON: I'm sorry, can you repeat that?
Q. 16 and 17, after the bogeys, you said you used to beat yourself up a lot after that. Would 18 have been possible today the last couple of years?
BRANDIE BURTON: I would say it would be 50/50. Today I went into it with a whole different attitude. I got up there and put 17 behind me, put 16 behind me when I stepped up on the 17 tee. Yeah, it probably would have eaten me up.
Q. You were talking about attacking the golf course. Was it more conducive to that today? And do you think it's getting that way as the tournament goes on?
BRANDIE BURTON: No, I don't think so at all. The course is running even faster today. A few shots today, if you hit it to the wrong side of the pin and it released, with the -- on the edges, they roll right over the green, and it gives you a situation just like I had on 18. So you've got to be really careful where you're going to be placing the ball on the pin placements tomorrow.
RHONDA GLENN: Also, they rolled the front aprons of the greens today so that they wouldn't stop like they have been. So the players have a fair chance to bounce it in.
BRANDIE BURTON: I saw that quite a bit today.
Q. Brandie, can you talk a little bit about the last couple of years, say since you won du Maurier and you haven't won. Can you talk about what's been going on with your game and have there been injuries?
BRANDIE BURTON: There hasn't really been injuries. Just a so, so achy body as anybody would if they wake up in the morning. But I always said I'm 24 with the body of an 80-year-old. I just went through a little low period where I just wasn't enjoying the game, and probably just put a little too high expectations on myself, which if I didn't go out and shoot 66 every day, it tore me apart. I know it wasn't pleasant for my family when I get home with being a grump. I just let it affect my whole life if I didn't play well and found out that that wasn't very healthy. And decided to do something about it this January. I'm pretty sure that I'm this close to being back a hundred percent and enjoying the game and enjoying other things besides the game of golf, too.
Q. Brandie, you said you can't be 100 percent aggressive in this golf course. Knowing the position you'll be in tomorrow with 18 holes to go, in your mind do you know there are two or three places where you think you can be aggressive?
BRANDIE BURTON: I don't think there is. I really don't. It's not like there's four or five par 5's where you can be aggressive and go for it in the tight areas. Perhaps coming down the stretch -- actually I can't actually envision any place where you can like make the extra step to be overly aggressive. This course is -- it's plain and simple, it's just right out in front of you on the map and you play it, like a traditional golf course, and I think that's the way it should be played.
Q. With the greens getting faster and faster and being more difficult to hold shots, how will that affect the way you will try to play tomorrow, and how will that affect you emotionally and psychologically?
BRANDIE BURTON: It's going to play an important part on the club selection. Coming down the stretch like on 15 today, I had 148 yards, and I hit 9-iron, knowing that I only hit it 130, I was aiming for the front of the green, because I know it's straight down grain and it's going to release. I think more than anything you've got a club selection that's going to be extremely important tomorrow. As far as the speed of greens with the putter, I liked them pretty good today, but they might change a little bit tomorrow. But I think they're a perfect speed.
Q. Is there any reason you play so well in North Carolina and Pinehurst in particular, this course?
BRANDIE BURTON: Must be all the great people.
Q. But technically, is there any particular reason?
BRANDIE BURTON: I don't know. This place has always welcomed me with open arms. From the first tournament I've ever played here I've had success. It's a great feeling.
Q. Do you feel that maybe you do better out of the type of rough that they have or hitting off the type of fairways, the type of greens they have, the grass?
BRANDIE BURTON: I think that -- the only thing I can think of that -- Donald Ross is one of my favorite architects, and Pinehurst No. 2 is probably one of my top-ten favorite golf courses. I've had success there. And another Donald Ross track, which is Pine Needles, and I've had success here. That could be an influence.
Q. I hope you add to it tomorrow.
BRANDIE BURTON: Thank you very much.
Q. How do you relax after a tough round and you know you've got another one coming tomorrow?
BRANDIE BURTON: Lake Pinehurst is right out my back door. A little fishing rod and a little worm and I'm set.
RHONDA GLENN: Nice play today, Brandie, thank you very much.
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