INDY RACING LEAGUE MEDIA CONFERENCE

February 3, 2005

Paul Dana

Ron Hemelgarn

RON HEMELGARN: Absolutely. We've been working on this program a long time, and we feel that we've put together a great program, signing a four-year deal with Ethanol and with Paul Dana as a driver. And I'm looking forward to taking on the challenge of the competition and the next four years.

RON HEMELGARN: Yes, in '03 I started talking with Paul, and we actually started working on an Ethanol program and we were actually working on a program separately from Paul. So Paul and I got together and we started working together. Paul had a great relationship the Ethanol people on a smaller scale for the Pro Series, and so we decided to go into the '04 series with the Pro car, and we began to work with the Ethanol people with the purpose of actually bringing them into the Indy Car Series, which successfully that was done as of last week. It's been a long, long process. However, it's been -- we've had great results in the Pro Series. We've been doing some winter testing, unfortunately not with '05 car, but basically with our '02 car with the Chevrolet engine that we tested over the winter, just getting Paul miles in a high-speed car. So now we are really ready to take on the challenge of '05, with a Dallara chassis, Toyota-powered and with Ethanol as our major sponsor, and hopefully that will go continuously for the next four years with Paul being the driver.

RON HEMELGARN: We did. I mean, we got along well. We had one first-place finish. We had many second-place finishes. We finished second in the championship. It was a building year as far as learning each other; Paul learning about Hemelgarn Racing and Hemelgarn Racing with Paul and with our team. Hemelgarn Racing has been around a long time and Lee Kuntzman (ph), for example, my team manager has been with me for 22 years. So it's not like it's a brand new team. It's a very old, established team and in fact, a lot of our crew members on our Indy Car side stayed on the payroll all last year. Even though we were not running in the series, we kept those guys on the payroll knowing that we would return. And the biggest thing that I wanted to do was have that loyalty to those people and those people having the loyalty to me, because that same crew was a crew that took Buddy Lazier to this championship in 2000, and also some of those were on the team when we won the Indy 500. So I think that Paul has an opportunity to work with some seasoned veterans.

PAUL DANA: Ed more than the other guys, just because I occasionally bounce into him in the gym in the Speedway, and he and I both leave in town. He's been real good. Actually, just the biggest thing is it's not actually the car. A race car is a race car; it's got four tires. The speeds are up, but if it's set up right it will behave the same and respond to changes the same. The biggest thing is just the length of the races and the conditioning required. When we tested down at Phoenix and Homestead, even though I've been driving for many, many years nothing prepares you for the G-load hitting you. I think it's over four G's hitting you through turns 3 and 4 in Phoenix, so it's just unreal. A lot of it is conditioning and working on your focus and working on your ability to perform through the races. The races are more than twice the length of the Pro Series races in a lot of cases, especially the 500-milers, so that's where the biggest part of the learning curve is.

PAUL DANA: Yeah, it's going faster. At Homestead I think our average was over 213 and our top speed was over 217, and that was my first time going over 200 miles an hour. The fastest we ever went in the Pro Series car I think was 198; so the extra 20 miles an hour gets your attention, certainly. To be honest, in Ron's '02 car, that thing is so well-sorted, that is literally the same car they won a bunch of races with; that's the best race car I have ever driven. It actually made it a lot easier than I expected, and in a lot of ways that thing handled better and was more predictable and tuneable than some of the times we had the Pro Series car. We were quick a lot of times in the Pro Series car, but a lot of times, we also struggled. But I'm told the current chassis with it's reduced the aero package and less downforce and whatnot can be a bit more skittish and stuff. So I think that '02 generation car is actually the best in terms of grip and stability, which was a good thing for me to drive for the first two times out, just because it's a little bit more conservative. And we'll just have to see what we come up with on the big car. But like I said, if they are in the window, and you just get a feel for how they respond to changes, the Pro Series is really good training. It should be very similar.

PAUL DANA: I think it's just reality in all forms of the sport, particularly in getting to the top level. There's so many of the drivers come up the ranks where their families have been involved in racing and they have been involved in racing since they were real little or whatnot and they are used to having their families or their family's financial backing take them most of the way and build up enough resume and race wins that eventually they get noticed by a top team and get hired, which is certainly the goal. I kind of feel like I just -- my family wasn't involved. My brother is involved in racing in a business capacity, but he and I both started basically at the same time when we were in college and we've just kind of carved out our place in the sport on our own. So I've never had anything handed to me and never had a dime of financial support from my family. So for me, it's just the reality of what it is, and if you're going to make it happen, you've got to get out there and hustle. I know a lot of really, really talented drivers that don't have an opportunity that, you know, think something is going to get handed to them, and occasionally it does happen, and it's a great story when it does. But on the flipside, I know plenty of drivers who know you've got to work at it and you know you've got to get out there and promote yourself constantly and be on the phone constantly and be in team owners' faces constantly. I think I met Ron, actually, for the first time the year before I ran the Pro Series when he was the first team in the Pro Series, and I knew that's where I wanted to go and with the growth of the IRL and whatnot that would be the place to be. So I actually sought him out at a test or something and introduced myself. It's that sort of thing, you want to know that every team owner knows your name and knows you're coming so that down the road if the stars line up right, you are able to work together and that's what's happened here.

PAUL DANA: Yeah, started up as a mechanic up at the Bridgestone Racing School which at the time was the Shannonville circuit.

PAUL DANA: When I first started, no, I mean, I just wanted to do it. I had been a gear-head all my life and I really liked racing, more in the F-1/Indy tradition than in the NASCAR tradition. So when it first started, I just wanted to do this and know how to drive and know how to work on the cars and whatnot. But a little bit of success is a dangerous thing. And I was able to go quick and met an instructor up there named Mark Clague (ph) who became one of my best friends, actually stood in my wedding not too long ago. But he sort of, you know, kind of made me focus and say, you know, you've got the ability and if you work at this, you can make it something else. And after that, it's just sort of been like, you know, the Indy 500 is so huge, can't -- you think about it, but you don't really. It's sort of like one step at a time, and I've just taken it, every time I've been at a level, I've just tried to run up front win races and do whatever it takes to get to the next level and it's just worked out. One after another, I've been able to climb the ladder. It's a little bit surreal, but it's pretty huge of an opportunity.

RON HEMELGARN: It's just a number that I picked out and actually used it for the first time in 1987, and it's a number I used with Scott Brayton, and then Gordon Johncock went on to use it, and then Stan Fox, and then Buddy Lazier and now Paul Dana. It's a number that we started using back then, and really, as far as why do we pick that, it's just a number I picked, and I believe that people recognize numbers or teams by numbers, and I think you've got to establish your team with a number. So that's why even when we won the championship, we never went to 1; we kept with 91, because that's a number in Indy Car racing that a race fan knows whose car that is, and it just goes on.

RON HEMELGARN: The purple is a very ironic thing how that happened in. 1991 we were racing up in Toronto, Canada, and I'm talking to some people, and peripheral vision, I'm watching cars go by, and my car at that time was red, but unfortunately, I could never tell when my car went by, but I could tell when, say, the Marlboro car went by or the Pennzoil car went by. I could see that without even reading the name because it was distinguished. At that point, I said, "I've got to have something different than anybody else." And so I unloaded at the Michigan 500, the following race, and I painted the car purple. And at that time, purple was not a real big color, and I can still remember the reaction of people and fans, like, "Purpose purple, oh my gosh." And it really got a lot of attention. So consequently, it did what it set out to do; it distinguished our cars from anyone else. So we ran that purple color for many, many, many years. Now the color this year with the Ethanol Hemelgarn Team is actually blue, white and green, and that's the cars of Ethanol, obviously being the agriculture, the green is very, very important; and the blue and white. So it's a blue, white and green color with the familiar 91 on the car.

RON HEMELGARN: I did.

RON HEMELGARN: And that's what you want to do. You want to make sure the fan knows who they are rooting for.

PAUL DANA: I'll believe it when the green flag drops.